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Originally Posted by JPsuff
See, I'm not understanding the "slightly heavier" part. True Temper iron shafts (assuming parallel tip shafts), are all manufactured at 41 inches and and as you say an "S-400" weighs 130 grams (actually it should be 134 grams), so that means that the shaft is 41 inches and 134 grams.
That can't change.
Whether you trim them 1/2-inch longer, or 1-inch shorter or hard-step them, or soft-step them, they all start out as 41-inch-long, 134 gram shafts, so no matter how they're set up, they can't weigh more than they did when you got them.
Yes, a shaft, let's say for a 7-iron, trimmed 1/2-inch longer than standard will weigh more than the same shaft trimmed to normal length for the same club but it can't weigh more than its raw weight, so I'm not understanding how it can be "heavier".
Even your new Rifles. If they start out as 112 gram shafts, then that's as much as they can ever weigh regardless of how they're trimmed. I'm not saying that one shaft is better than another, all I'm saying is that no shaft can weigh more - once it's installed - than it did when it was purchased.
And yes, there is quite a difference in feel as well as clubhead speed when you go from a heavy shaft in the 130 gram range to a lighter shaft in the low one-teens and I would expect that you can swing them a bit faster and the fatigue-factor is reduced as well.
I was just puzzled by "Al's" comment about fatigue referring to your original shafts actually being "X's" instead of "S's" because their weights are virtually identical, so that even if you had the "correct" shafts installed, they'd weigh the same.
-JP
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We're getting confused here. He didn't say I was fatiguing because they frequencied out to an X and not S as marked, he said I was fatiguing because the shafts were too heavy. He said when you have a shaft that is a half-inch over, you should go with a lighter shaft, because a standard weight shaft will be too heavy with the extra length. The S-400's are by your count 22 grams heavier than the Rifle Lites. One hundred and thirty-four grams is heavier than 112 grams. I don't know what the misunderstanding is.
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Originally Posted by JPsuff
Yes, a shaft, let's say for a 7-iron, trimmed 1/2-inch longer than standard will weigh more than the same shaft trimmed to normal length for the same club
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That's the entire point - because the shafts are a half-inch longer than standard, they are heavier than the same shaft a half-inch shorter (and mine needed to go even longer when he fit me, which would have made them heavier still with another quarter inch added on). Therefore if you're going to have clubs that are 3/4's of an inch over standard length, you need to go with a lighter shaft, otherwise they'll be too heavy. It's like swinging a baseball bat that's too heavy for you - you get one the same length, only lighter. Problem solved.
This is why I'm a little confused, you say you don't understand the comments, yet you explain the answers perfectly.
