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Originally Posted by mr3856a
We're getting confused here. He didn't say I was fatiguing because they frequencied out to an X and not S as marked, he said I was fatiguing because the shafts were too heavy. He said when you have a shaft that is a half-inch over, you should go with a lighter shaft, because a standard weight shaft will be too heavy with the extra length. The S-400's are by your count 22 grams heavier than the Rifle Lites. One hundred and thirty-four grams is heavier than 112 grams. I don't know what the misunderstanding is.
That's the entire point - because the shafts are a half-inch longer than standard, they are heavier than the same shaft a half-inch shorter (and mine needed to go even longer when he fit me, which would have made them heavier still with another quarter inch added on). Therefore if you're going to have clubs that are 3/4's of an inch over standard length, you need to go with a lighter shaft, otherwise they'll be too heavy. It's like swinging a baseball bat that's too heavy for you - you get one the same length, only lighter. Problem solved.
This is why I'm a little confused, you say you don't understand the comments, yet you explain the answers perfectly. 
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Well, the whole heavier/lighter argument is very subjective because other factors are in play when it comes to clubweights. A longer club feels heavier because its center of gravity is moved more towards the clubhead, so that additional 1/2-inch of shaft length makes the club feel heavier unless the swingweight is adjusted to move the center of gravity back towards the grip. But the actual weight of the 1/2-inch long section of shaft only weighs about a gram or so. By comparison, a dollar bill weighs about a gram and so does a standard-issue office-style paper clip.
In fact, if you play with swingweights, you can actually make a 7-iron with a DG shaft "feel" lighter than the same clubhead fitted with a Rifle light shaft, even though the Rifle shaft weighs about 15% less than the DG shaft.
As far as the confusion goes, what "Al" said led me to believe that he was pointing out that the "X" shafts (not only being too stiff) also caused more fatigue because they were too heavy as opposed to what should have been a "S" shaft. But I can see how that entire statement can be read another way wherein "Al" is actually saying that DG shafts "in general" are too heavy, so maybe I'm misinterpreting that.
-JP