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Old 06-19-2008, 12:36 PM
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Re: Retief Goosen: "Tiger Was Faking"

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Originally Posted by mr3856a View Post
My, I seem to have struck a chord. It's quite obvious that you have an emotional soft spot in this area. He is more than a darn great golfer (Tiger Woods Learning Center). What I find funny is people who have to exaggerate and make abstract assumptions with no basis in fact to defend what they've said when they get called on saying something ridiculous.
Do you know how many golfers have foundations? Even Tiger Nation's whipping boy has a foundation, but no one rolls around saying Rory is full of integrity and is such a stand up human being. Don't like the Rory example? Justin Leonard has a scholarship fund and has been helping students for 10 years. What about the David Toms foundation?

Yeah, Eldrick has a nice big foundation that everyone likes to point out, but if he was just an average Joe out there on the course, we wouldn't be hearing about how full of integrity, class, and honesty he is. Much like the others mentioned, because they don't hit a golf ball better than anyone else in the world. The idea that Tiger is the most respectable and upstanding human being one could aspire to stems from his golfing ability, not from the TWF.

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You called Tiger a liar, so did Retief. Stand up for it or don't say it. Retief has already backed off what he said, I guess your tactic is the illogical attack. This "Phil this, Tiger fan that" bologna has nothing to do with the issue at hand, nor did I imply that he puts his pants on different than anyone else. What is true, however, and which you seem to take issue with, is that professionally (and personally for all I've ever heard), the man is beyond reproach - or perhaps you know of some moments of dishonesty in his past you can share with us...? What on earth would make you assume he has to fake a limp? For what? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
So we can't indirectly call Tiger a liar but it's cool to indirectly call someone stupid? The only reason you call the Phil v Tiger analogy "bologna" is because you know it's true. He's just a darn good golfer. He's not a better human being that Cindy in Accounting or Rob in construction who have a family and donate money to charity.

Why would he fake his wincing pain? Like I've said umpteen times, I have no idea. But, he declared himself ready to go. He took longer than the expected recovery time. And when he drained that putt on the 72nd, he certainly didn't look like his knee was causing him any problems in the extravagant celebration. He winced on some shots, on others of the same type he looked fine. Connecting those dots is as easy as 1, 2, 3.

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If you have any basis in fact for making an assumption that he was lying to us in some way, please let me know, otherwise I'll take this for what it is, envy and/or jealousy.
The last person in the world I envy is Tiger. Would it be nice to have his golfing ability? Sure. Does he have an attractive wife? Yeap. Would it be nice to never worry about money? Of course. Do I think his life is any better than my own? No chance in heck. Not even close. Envy Tiger? That'd be an insult to myself.

I don't envy him, I'm not jealous of him, I just like watching him golf. And if Accounting was super exciting sport, he'd love watching me bang out a bank rec.
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