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Old 06-30-2009, 11:42 AM
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Re: Identifying your ball

OK, then is the following (in red) correct?, as I posted it was "as I read/interpreted the rules":
  1. Origional in WH and Prov in rough = Play 4th with Prov as against PD with origional so playing 3.
  2. Prov in WH and Origional in rough = Play 2nd with Origional.
  3. Orig. and Prov. in the rough = can't identify which is which = play 5th from the tee?
27-1. Stroke and Distance; Ball Out of Bounds; Ball Not Found Within Five Minutes

a. Proceeding Under Stroke and Distance
At any time, a player may, under penalty of one stroke, play a ball as nearly as possible at the spot from which the original ball was last played (see Rule 20-5), i.e., proceed under penalty of stroke and distance.
Except as otherwise provided in the Rules, if a player makes a stroke at a ball from the spot at which the original ball was last played, he is deemed to have proceeded under penalty of stroke and distance.
b. Ball Out of Bounds
If a ball is out of bounds, the player must play a ball, under penalty of one stroke, as nearly as possible at the spot from which the original ball was last played (see Rule 20-5).
c. Ball Not Found Within Five Minutes
If a ball is lost as a result of not being found or identified as his by the player within five minutes after the player's Side or his or their caddies have begun to search for it, the player must play a ball, under penalty of one stroke, as nearly as possible at the spot from which the original ball was last played (see Rule 20-5).

OK, never mind...I just found this =>

27/11 Provisional Ball Not Distinguishable from Original Ball
A player entitled to play a provisional ball from the tee plays it into the same area as his original ball. The balls have identical markings and the player cannot distinguish between them. Following are various situations and the solutions, which are based on equity (Rule 1-4), when the above circumstances exist and one or both of the balls are found within a search of five minutes:

Solution 4: One could argue that both balls are lost. However, it would be inequitable to require the player to return to the tee, playing 5, when the player has found both balls but does not know which is the original and which the provisional. Accordingly, the player must select one of the balls, treat it as his provisional ball and abandon the other.

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Originally Posted by Fileygolfer View Post
Although I can see the sense in the decision, it is not as clear cut as it should be.

Origional in WH and Prov in rough = Play 4th with Prov as against PD with origional so playing 3.

Prov in WH and Origional in rough = Play 2nd with Origional.

Because it can not be certain which Ball is which, the Decision allows you to play your 4th shot from the rough instead of having to return to the Tee.

But if a 3rd or even 4th Ball is involved, the Decision does not really cover that. If a Player can't definately ID his Ball from two, what chance would he have with 3 or 4?

Last edited by Bulls9999 : 06-30-2009 at 11:49 AM.
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