steel shaft to graphite

[RoyalWulff]

I am looking at buying a new three wood and what I was thinking is that I could buy the one with the steel shaft and have a fitted shaft put in for me. Are there any reasons I can't put a graphite shaft in a club that had a steel shaft? The reason I am dong this is it will save me about 40 dollars.

[JPsuff]

Originally Posted by RoyalWulff

I am looking at buying a new three wood and what I was thinking is that I could buy the one with the steel shaft and have a fitted shaft put in for me. Are there any reasons I can't put a graphite shaft in a club that had a steel shaft? The reason I am dong this is it will save me about 40 dollars.

That's exactly what I do. If I like a club but not the shaft (or shafts) it comes with, I'll buy it in a steel-shafted version to save money. A hosel bore is a hosel bore and whatever that bore is (.335", .350", .370") just buy a shaft that fits whatever bore it is and you're on your way. I've even used shims from time to time to fit, say, a .335" shaft to a .370" bore. It has no effect on the shaft and works fine.

Just make sure you find out what the hosel bore is first so you'll know what shaft to order, or you can simply measure it yourself.

-JP

[OnePutt]

I agree. If you plan to pull the shaft, why not save the money and get a steel shaft model. It's the same head, so you'll get a better total cost going steel. I build all my irons and woods, so if I can be of any assistance, let me know.

[coralpro]

For one I think it would depend on the club and what shaft they offered. If it was a sale on a club that had an upgraded shaft it might help a person that could sell the higher end shaft and make some money over just throwing the steel shaft into the waste. Again just depends on the price. I can see the reasoning though for not wanting to pay extra for a shaft that one didn't want.

[JPsuff]

Originally Posted by coralpro

For one I think it would depend on the club and what shaft they offered. If it was a sale on a club that had an upgraded shaft it might help a person that could sell the higher end shaft and make some money over just throwing the steel shaft into the waste. Again just depends on the price. I can see the reasoning though for not wanting to pay extra for a shaft that one didn't want.

True, but one of the problems with selling pulls is that the person buying it might want an assurance that the person who pulled the shaft actually did it correctly. This is because damage can occur to graphite shafts even though it seemed to come out of the hosel rather easily. So if you're selling a pull and someone asks, "Who pulled it?", if you say, "I did.", they might want to start negotiating.

So in the case of buying a club with an upgrade shaft with the intention of selling that shaft, it would be a good idea to plan in your budget to have a qualified person pull the shaft and get a receipt for his services to act as "proof" later on.


-JP

[coralpro]

Originally Posted by JPsuff

True, but one of the problems with selling pulls is that the person buying it might want an assurance that the person who pulled the shaft actually did it correctly. This is because damage can occur to graphite shafts even though it seemed to come out of the hosel rather easily. So if you're selling a pull and someone asks, "Who pulled it?", if you say, "I did.", they might want to start negotiating.

So in the case of buying a club with an upgrade shaft with the intention of selling that shaft, it would be a good idea to plan in your budget to have a qualified person pull the shaft and get a receipt for his services to act as "proof" later on.


-JP

I would agree with that assessment. Imagine that!!!!!!

[JPsuff]

Originally Posted by coralpro

I would agree with that assessment. Imagine that!!!!!!

That's twice now.


Could the "Hat Trick" be far behind?



-JP

[coralpro]

Originally Posted by JPsuff

That's twice now.


Could the "Hat Trick" be far behind?



-JP

Gotta keep you guessing. Basically it depends on when you post something that is worth agreeing with. Two doesn't sound like you're on a roll out of all the posts you've made but you can cross your fingers.

[JPsuff]

Originally Posted by coralpro

Gotta keep you guessing. Basically it depends on when you post something that is worth agreeing with. Two doesn't sound like you're on a roll out of all the posts you've made but you can cross your fingers.

Alright.


But I'm not going to print out your response and tape it to my refrigerator, OK?



-JP

[coralpro]

Originally Posted by JPsuff

Alright.


But I'm not going to print out your response and tape it to my refrigerator, OK?



-JP

Now you just ruined my day!

[RoyalWulff]

Thanks for the help guys.

[OnePutt]

While it makes sense to have someone pull the shaft that knows what he's doing. I'm not sure who exactly that would be. I'm pretty sure some of the guys working at the local golf superstores are okay, but I'm not sure all of them are what I"d call "Experts". One good thing about when I pull a shaft. When I do it, I know who's doing it, I know I"m using a good shaft puller, and the right heat source. I also know that I CARE about the shaft I'm pulling, and it's not just a job, it's MY shaft being pulled. Can you say as much for the guy at Golf Galaxy? Or Joe's Golf Shop? Having a shaft pulled by a professional sounds like a good idea, and I can understand your point if you want to re-sell the shaft. I don't claim to be an expert or my any means the best club builder on earth, but at least I know I'll take as much time as is needed to do the job right, and I know I have good equipment for the job, and I know how to use it. And I care about the results. My guess is JPsuff and some others here feel the same way. They trust their own work more than that of a stranger.

[JPsuff]

Originally Posted by OnePutt

While it makes sense to have someone pull the shaft that knows what he's doing. I'm not sure who exactly that would be. I'm pretty sure some of the guys working at the local golf superstores are okay, but I'm not sure all of them are what I"d call "Experts". One good thing about when I pull a shaft. When I do it, I know who's doing it, I know I"m using a good shaft puller, and the right heat source. I also know that I CARE about the shaft I'm pulling, and it's not just a job, it's MY shaft being pulled. Can you say as much for the guy at Golf Galaxy? Or Joe's Golf Shop? Having a shaft pulled by a professional sounds like a good idea, and I can understand your point if you want to re-sell the shaft. I don't claim to be an expert or my any means the best club builder on earth, but at least I know I'll take as much time as is needed to do the job right, and I know I have good equipment for the job, and I know how to use it. And I care about the results. My guess is JPsuff and some others here feel the same way. They trust their own work more than that of a stranger.

I agree with you, OnePutt, but when selling something to someone, they might want a bit more assurance than simply that someone cares about doing the job the right way and unfortunately a receipt from a golf shop tends to trump someone's stated skills or level of caring.

Now this may not matter much for an inexpensive shaft, but I'm sure that you've seen the plethora of "Pulls" for sale on E-bay and many of them are very pricey shafts. If someone is going to spend what can often be hundreds of dollars on what is essentially a used golf shaft, I think they'd like to know that the shaft they bought was handled by a professional.
Unfortunately, perception is reality and even if the guy at "Clubs r' Us" is an idiot when it comes to clubmaking, the fact that "Clubs r' Us" is a popular golf store will likely carry more weight in the mind of the consumer than some individual's claim to know what they're doing.


It's not fair, but it does tend to be the way people think.


-JP

[OnePutt]

Sad, but true.

[petermo]

Isn't it more sensible to buy components from some place like the Golfworks and assemble the club? That way you get a head that suits a graphite shaft weight wise - steel shafts are generally much heavier than graphite and heads are designed accordingly. I'm not sure what the effect on swing weight would be but I'm sure the club will feel relatively "head heavy" particularly where the shaft will be about 43" long.

[deronsizemore]

Personally, I prefer steel shafts in my fairway woods, so I'd just leave the steel.

[coralpro]

Originally Posted by petermo

Isn't it more sensible to buy components from some place like the Golfworks and assemble the club? That way you get a head that suits a graphite shaft weight wise - steel shafts are generally much heavier than graphite and heads are designed accordingly. I'm not sure what the effect on swing weight would be but I'm sure the club will feel relatively "head heavy" particularly where the shaft will be about 43" long.

Heads are heads nomatter what shaft you place in them. Whether one plays d2 weighting or whichever weighting they prefer it is either adjusted by changing weight in the head or loading the shaft to weight the club correctly for the golfer. I've not seen one clubhead that says best for or use only with graphite. Besides the average golfer is not going to distinquish that much difference in 20-30 grams

[OnePutt]

As has just been mentioned, all 3 wood heads will be the same weight, steel shaft or graphite. The issue of swing weight is taken care of by having a longer shaft when it's a graphite shaft. That's the reason steel shaft woods are usually 1/2 inch shorter than graphite ones.

[petermo]

There you go fly man (Wulff) - don't forget to add the 1/2 inch!

[RoyalWulff]

Originally Posted by petermo

There you go fly man (Wulff) - don't forget to add the 1/2 inch!

Sounds like you flyfish also, there petermo. Not many recogonize that my nick is a fly for flyfishing.

[petermo]

Originally Posted by RoyalWulff

Sounds like you flyfish also, there petermo. Not many recogonize that my nick is a fly for flyfishing.

Unfortunately not as often as I'd like! Most of my fishing has been for trout, mainly rainbow in high altitude dams. Since all fish are stocked, either from hatcheries as fingerlings or from larger ponds, very few develop the wiles of wild trout and I've become a bit bored with catching and releasing 1 pounders. Even though quite a large area of SA is over 4000 ft above sea level it is a very dry country with very few fast flowing, clean, perennial rivers or streams that have dependable water. There are a few wild trout streams but they're more than 400 miles away from where I live and one needs to be an enthusiast to get out there for trout.

I've done a bit of salt water flyfishing and we have good variety but again the closest sea is 500 miles away. There's great fishing in Mozambique and I hope to go there with a few friends later this year.

My son and I spent a week in Botswana fishing for Tigerfish on fly which is a mind blowing and heart stopping experience. We used 8 wt kit and clouser minnows and had a ball at Kasane which is on the Chobe river.

This link is interesting and should whet your appetite although I realise that maybe dryfly is what turns you on!

TigerFishFrenzy.com - Learn all about tigerfishing on the Zambezi River's Caprivi strip