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Re: Are we being bamboozled by the OEM?S??
For one thing, the consistency and quality of the OEM brands is usually better. The knock offs and lower end products are great for starters, but when you start to demand more from your equipment, the OEM's (not just the big guys though), will have better quality materials in their products. Yet you are in part pating for the name on the club.
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Well sure..I dont have any doubt in my mind I could go to wal mart buy a set of clubs and shoot a 75 or so, but golf is a game of inches, and golf is also a game of confidence. The new technology DOES help...Its not going to revolutionize YOUR game, but it can help a shot or so, or maybe 1 shot over 2 rounds...But that is the fun of it....You are not going to shave 10 strokes by buying a new club or new set, but its a game of inches! |
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Re: Are we being bamboozled by the OEM?S??
I don't buy new equipment because they say it will help my game. I really buy it because I like it and it's kinda like a hobby. I do think quality materials help out though.
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Re: Are we being bamboozled by the OEM?S??
Who cares, its fun to buy new golf stuff.
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Re: Are we being bamboozled by the OEM?S??
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But TaylorMade has "SuperFast Technology". I mean, if THAT isn't something to spend your paycheck on, then I don't know what is! -JP
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My Bag: Driver: TM R7 425 TP, 9.5 deg. / UST ProForce V2 75X (tipped 1/2") 3-Wood: Nike SQ3+ 13 deg./TT EI70X 4-Wood: Nike SQ4, 17 deg. / Rifle MT85S (graphite) Irons 2-PW: Snake Eyes 600C All lofts +1.5 deg.'Hot' DG X-100 soft-stepped 1/2". Wedge: 51 deg. Snake Eyes 655TM Putter: Odyssey Dual Force #2 |
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Re: Are we being bamboozled by the OEM?S??
No, I buy things that are customized to my game. No way would I consider buying Kmart clubs that are 3* closed and will be a hook machine. The clubs I have now all have minimum offset and the driver is a couple degrees open. Tell me where to get a driver *3 open from Kmart and maybe I'll try it.
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Re: Are we being bamboozled by the OEM?S??
I'm sure the quality control and confidence you get from an OEM are a little more than that k-mart set, at least for me.
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Exactly, I could really care less about brand loyalty, I play what feels and performs best for me...so far I haven't been able to find a Target/Kmart driver that will outperform the component or OEMs consistently.
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Driver: Nicklaus Dual Point 9* x-flex Woods: Burner 3-wood and/or T-40 5-woodUtility: Mid 19*/22*Irons: R7 TP's 3-PWWedges: RAC TP Black 52/56/60Putter: Odyssey White Steel
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Re: Are we being bamboozled by the OEM?S??
I'm pretty big on supporting the pro-shop at the club I play out of so I try to purchase most of my equipment except for maybe golf balls and tour only clubs from them. But if my teacher told me some small companies driver would fit me best and I liked the club, I would definitely buy it.
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Re: Are we being bamboozled by the OEM?S??
Sure we are. Is there really any great technological breakthrough that has been achieved from year to year? Probably not. Over the long haul and since the use of metal woods, maybe. But the biggest has been the ball technology. Every year, new clubs come out that say they are the latest in technology. But how can that happen year in and year out? In my opinion and for the most part, they are just repackaging the same thing with different looks but with the same result.
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Re: Are we being bamboozled by the OEM?S??
TaylorMades releases for the last 18 months or so
All of which have been touted as the latest and greatest R7 425 R7 425 TP R7 460 Draw R7 460 R7 460 TP R7 SuperQuad Burner R5 Type N R5 Type D R5 TP |
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Re: Are we being bamboozled by the OEM?S??
I buy new clubs because I can. Also, when I shoot a bad round I can say that it was because of my new clubs and I'm not used to them - not my poor golf skills
I mean, what else would I use the money for - flowers for the wife, clothes for kids,... ![]()
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Re: Are we being bamboozled by the OEM?S??
The thing that people don't understand with Taylor Made is that they release each driver with a specific player in mind. Not saying that it is the right way to go, but they target certain types of player with each club. They now that I will not play the r7 Draw, but there are people who fight a slice and even loading all of the weight in the heel of an r7 425 won't move as much weight as simply removing a portion of hte toe and moving it to the heel.
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Re: Are we being bamboozled by the OEM?S??
Not like Nike is any better with coming out with the latest and greatest (SQs & Sumo's), or Callaway with their FT's, or Cobra when they did their EZ and Speed series, etc etc. Just like new cars, there are always people ready to spend their money, so why should any one manuf. not try and capture that market? Truthfully, having 500 different drivers coming out in 1 year only means I'll be able to pick up one on ebay for real cheap a year down the road.
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Driver: Nicklaus Dual Point 9* x-flex Woods: Burner 3-wood and/or T-40 5-woodUtility: Mid 19*/22*Irons: R7 TP's 3-PWWedges: RAC TP Black 52/56/60Putter: Odyssey White Steel
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Nike will let the launch monitor data speak for itself!!! I was just issued a launch monitor last week, and I already fit a few people over the weekend!! The numbers were quite impressive ![]() |
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It's the ball! The greatest contribution to distance in the golf industry is the livelier ball - just like in baseball. The proof is in the irons. Today, we have Pro's hitting 270 yd. 2-irons. Now there has been no significant change in the way blades have been manufactured in fifty years. There's no "spring effect", no titanium, no composites. Basically a 2-iron is still a hunk of forged steel on the end of a stick, yet they're hitting them farther than ever. It's the ball! -JP
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My Bag: Driver: TM R7 425 TP, 9.5 deg. / UST ProForce V2 75X (tipped 1/2") 3-Wood: Nike SQ3+ 13 deg./TT EI70X 4-Wood: Nike SQ4, 17 deg. / Rifle MT85S (graphite) Irons 2-PW: Snake Eyes 600C All lofts +1.5 deg.'Hot' DG X-100 soft-stepped 1/2". Wedge: 51 deg. Snake Eyes 655TM Putter: Odyssey Dual Force #2 |
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Then what is your argument to two different drivers hitting the same ball, and one has a 10 mph difference in ball speed? |
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Re: Are we being bamboozled by the OEM?S??
Other than lofts getting stronger, shafts being made from lighter, more consistent steel. Not to mention higher swing speeds and more perfected techniques by the players.
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