60* wedge for this lies?

[jwaldrop]

I've several times tried to put a *60 in my bag (I've actually owned 3 and still have 2), carried and tried to hit a few days and then back to the storage bag. Most of that was due to a number of thin lies occurring near the greens on my home course, and difficulty I was having with consistent control distance , and my pretty strong control of my 56* wedge for a variety of shots.

I've gotten inspired by a number of you folks and have put the 60 Ping Eye2 in the bag and I'm actually getting pretty comfortable with it for a change.

This Ping seems to be a little better from thinner or tight lies than others I've tried as it seems to have a little less bounce and a thinner sole.

Has anyone experience the same?

[81Custom]

Originally Posted by jwaldrop

I've several times tried to put a *60 in my bag (I've actually owned 3 and still have 2), carried and tried to hit a few days and then back to the storage bag. Most of that was due to a number of thin lies occurring near the greens on my home course, and difficulty I was having with consistent control distance , and my pretty strong control of my 56* wedge for a variety of shots.

I've gotten inspired by a number of you folks and have put the 60 Ping Eye2 in the bag and I'm actually getting pretty comfortable with it for a change.

This Ping seems to be a little better from thinner or tight lies than others I've tried as it seems to have a little less bounce and a thinner sole.

Has anyone experience the same?

Bro...my 1st wedge was a Wilson 64*.... I've hdd 2 dozen other wedges since, but I still go back to the 64...it won't hit far, but it'll stop after a small bounce...stop dead.
I don't know about bounce and soles,etc...I know they're the latest way to identify various wedges for different uses, but I'm not a good enough golfer to utilize all the different sole lofts... I use what works(worked) for me...I've heard folks say theres' no use in awedge over 58*...I disagree, but I'm no Pro,either, so take my with a grain of salt.
stick with the 60,my friend, and stick it close !!
edit to add: openning the face for more loft will NOT perform the same as a higher lofted club,thats' been my experience....

[coralpro]

The only thing about the higher degree wedges is generally most people get them with minimal bounce and one has to be proficient at using them. None of the wedges I use have high bounce but I would say moderate. I actually prefer lower bounce to prevent skulling. When I miss I generally miss short from a shorter swing and not finishing through enough so it generally leaves an uphill putt. I have a 64 at home I was going to try it again but plan on getting a 60 because my current highest 55 degree will add bounce doing a flop and it is real tough from extremely tight lies and probably only have 25 percent acceptable results doing that shot.

[ringin]

Too much bounce on a wedge can be the kiss of death. It's great when you're hitting from a nice fluffy bunker lie, but on a tight fairway or near green lie you have to contact ball first, or it's going to bounce off the turf and line drive it at a million miles an hour. I have a Vokey 60*, and the bounce is fairly mellow. I recommend if you carry two sand wedges to at least have one with a shallow bounce...especially when you get in bunkers that have packed sand...the shallower bounce will let you get under the ball, and it's the same with tight fairway lies.

[JackSomebody]

I have a sand wedge thats 60 degrees. My brother, (JimSomebody), says it's wrong. Should be something else not as high. So I'm afraid to hit that. I also carry a 64 degree wedge. I found that at Boscov's for $19.99. I was very excited on that discovery. Convinced that it was priced wrong....I bought it. It's actually a Wilson Staff! That club I like for very short work around a green. It doesn't work too bad as long as I don't get too wristy. I've been told max distance is about 40 yards. Unless I skull it, then we're going about 90yards. Unless I hit it fat...then it's "ball hit to the face time". My brother also told me that as well. Afraid of it. Then one day I'm in Play It Again Sports and find a Yonex LTB600 2-iron that is in new condition. For $3.00, you bet I bought it. Take it to the range and actually not do too bad breaking it in with the new owner. Tell bro and he tells me "thats a tough club to hit". So now it sits in the bag. I'm afraid of that now to. What a shame because it gets along with the other stuff in there. Good news is, he likes my putter. But after the beating he gave me in the spring (don't get me wrong Jim.....I loved every minute ) I'm thinking I should've gone with a Ray Cook style putter. Golf is such a mind game. He's 1500 miles away and he running up my handicap. I don't know what to do. Indecision may or may not be my problem. Oh well. That's my two cents.

[troll4poker]

Originally Posted by JackSomebody

I have a sand wedge thats 60 degrees. My brother, (JimSomebody), says it's wrong. Should be something else not as high. So I'm afraid to hit that. I also carry a 64 degree wedge. I found that at Boscov's for $19.99. I was very excited on that discovery. Convinced that it was priced wrong....I bought it. It's actually a Wilson Staff! That club I like for very short work around a green. It doesn't work too bad as long as I don't get too wristy. I've been told max distance is about 40 yards. Unless I skull it, then we're going about 90yards. Unless I hit it fat...then it's "ball hit to the face time". My brother also told me that as well. Afraid of it. Then one day I'm in Play It Again Sports and find a Yonex LTB600 2-iron that is in new condition. For $3.00, you bet I bought it. Take it to the range and actually not do too bad breaking it in with the new owner. Tell bro and he tells me "thats a tough club to hit". So now it sits in the bag. I'm afraid of that now to. What a shame because it gets along with the other stuff in there. Good news is, he likes my putter. But after the beating he gave me in the spring (don't get me wrong Jim.....I loved every minute ) I'm thinking I should've gone with a Ray Cook style putter. Golf is such a mind game. He's 1500 miles away and he running up my handicap. I don't know what to do. Indecision may or may not be my problem. Oh well. That's my two cents.

Lol, do what I do with my brother, listen to what he has to tell u then do the exact opposite. In all seriousness tho, if YOU are comfortable with the clubs you have, dont let anyone, Jim included, get in your head and tell you they are wrong. As far as the wedges go, in my experience, its just a matter of finding what works for you and going with it, as long as u can get consistent with any club and you know what YOU are able to do with it, then it doesnt matter what anyone else thinks. I may hit my 8 iron 165 and u may need a 6 iron to get that distance, BUT, as long as you are aware of your own ability, who cares. If it works, dont fix it. JMO tho

[stlcard_25]

I carry a 60º wedge, but I very rarely use it for full swings. Basically I use it from the sand (square setup, steep but normal swing works best for me) and for tight pitch shots and short-sided chips. I don't carry a traditional "sand wedge" though, so I can hit my 52º and 60º wedges pretty equally well from all types of lies.

[jwaldrop]

Originally Posted by JackSomebody

...at Boscov's for $19.99. I was very excited on that discovery. Convinced that it was priced wrong....I bought it. It's actually a Wilson Staff! That club I like for very short work around a green.

A buddy of mine, who is a wizard with wedges, has probably owned most of the wedges produced in the last 10 years. It's funny that he ALWAYS returns to an older Wilson Staff 58* to fix his short game. Even though I don't agree with his philosophy of throwing every shot at the whole instead of chipping, it works for him and that Wilson is a big part of that!

I hit his 58* a couple of times one Saturday when we were "cart paths only" and I was too lazy to walk back to the cart, and I just don't understand why he wouldn't sell it too me!!!!!

[Fourputt]

The 60° that I have (but hardly ever put in my bag) has only 4° of bounce. It is quite usable from tight lies. However, it is the nature of that club that it will always be difficult to hit it from such a lie. It takes nearly perfect contact to put such a lofted face on (under) the ball from a tight lie, thus the percentage shot is with a club that is more in the 45° to 50° range.

For me, the decision would depend on the ground. If it's soft, the chance of stubbing the club is greater, so I'm going to use my 45° PW, if if it means that I can't put it close to the hole... at least I'll be putting. If the ground is firmer, then I'll probably use the 50° GW to have a better chance to put the ball near the hole.

[300Yards]

I love my 60*. I normally use mine from the greenside rough, when I don't have room for an actual chip shot, or from the fairway when I want the ball to stop or back up. I use my 56* more..but when it comes to bad bunker conditions, I wouldn't take it out of the bag for anything.

[90civicracer]

I use my 60* quite a bit. I first got one last year and started practicing with it until I felt comfortable with it. Now, if I'm within 40 yards, you can probably bet that I'm going to be using it, excluding some instances where I feel another club would be more useful. It's definitely helped me because I feel really confident with it, and I'm pretty well at controlling the distance on it.

Edit - My 60* is a Cleveland CG10 with 1 dot, I forget how man degrees it is though.

[C-Tech]

I carry a 56 degree sand wedge with 12 degrees of bounce for us in bunkers and from fluffy lies around the greens. I also carry a 60 degree lob wedge with 6 degrees of bounce that works quite well from tight lies because of the low bounce. I had a lob wedge that had way too much bounce and from a tight lie, I could hit a bullet about 200 yards, 1ft off the ground. It finally committed suicide by drowning itself in the center of a rather large pond after becoming mentally distraught for costing me 6 strokes in 3 holes. I did not hold a wake.

[300Yards]

Sorry, I didn't finish my above post.. I thought I just exited. Anyway, I like my 60* wedge. It isn't an easy club to master, but once you do, it is irreplaceable. It has so many uses, and can be used from almost anywhere inside about 60 yards or so..The key to this club, is to swing comfortably. I rarely, if ever, muscle this club. Like any club, if you put in the time to understand it, it can be mastered, and used to your advantage.

[JPsuff]

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I tried carrying a 60 degree wedge but I just couldn't get used to it. I guess that's because I never saw much point in having one. I do carry a gap wedge (51 degrees) and a 56 degree "sand" wedge in addition to the standard-issue PW and as far as I'm concerned, those are all the wedges I'll ever want or need.

It's funny that some of the greatest short game players in the world generally carried only one additional wedge (SW) and that was that. No gap wedges or lob wedges just a standard set of irons including a PW and then your basic SW.
I think that all of these extra wedges has needlessly complicated this game. I DO like my gap wedge and it's my "wedge-of-choice" 90% of the time. I only use my 56 degree in certain situations like fluffy sand and some "tweener" fairway approaches, but that's about it.

If someone likes to carry a 60 that's their choice. But as for me, I don't really see the need.



-JP

[lwc]

Lob wedges have only been in general use since the 1980's. Click on USGTF for more information.

I use a 60° Vokey with 4° bounce. For me a full shot produces 65 yards that stops where it lands.

[90civicracer]

Originally Posted by JPsuff

.If someone likes to carry a 60 that's their choice. But as for me, I don't really see the need.



-JP

I couldn't agree more, different strokes for different folks For some people, including myself, a 60* has helped my game around the greens, for others, they can use something else just as effectively.

[C-Tech]

I have a set of wedges 56 sand and 60 lob and I have another set with 54 sand and 58 lob. I alternate them depending on the course. There is one course around here that has all elevated greens that just about demands a 60 degree for lofted pitches onto the elevated greens. I use the 58 a lot on my home course because there are tighter fairway lies that just beg for the slightly lower lofts.

I seldom use a full swing with any of these wedges. I have found that choking down helps me alter the distance I want the ball to travel and using an abbreviated swing helps me set the trajectory and spin rate. I spend a lot of time at our chipping green working from 20 to 80 yards out trying to develop distance control. When that part of my game is on, I score well. It is the single most important skill to reducing my scores.

[JimSomebody]

Originally Posted by JackSomebody

I have a sand wedge thats 60 degrees. My brother, (JimSomebody), says it's wrong...
I also carry a 64 degree wedge...It doesn't work too bad as long as I don't get too wristy. I've been told max distance is about 40 yards. Unless I skull it, then we're going about 90yards. Unless I hit it fat...then it's "ball hit to the face time". My brother also told me that as well...
Then one day I'm in Play It Again Sports and find a Yonex LTB600 2-iron that is in new condition...Tell bro and he tells me "thats a tough club to hit".

Wow... he really listens to me! After the score I shot yesterday, I shouldn't be advising ANYone on ANY golf-related matter. Anyway, as may be evident, I was trying to steer my bro away from clubs that seem to me to be low-percentage plays for high 'cappers. However, as posters to this thread have shown, many people feel confident about 60* wedges, at least when the wedge matches the situation. Bottom line is you can't argue with success.