The New Stack & Tilt Swing

[Game Face]

Anyone read the article about the new Stack & tilt swing in the latest Golf Digest? It's a completely different swing from the current modern day swing. My son Ryan and I tried it out today at the local par 3 course...

It was crazy windy on the San Francisco Bay today. 20 mph winds with gusts up to about 30mph... normal late afternoons on the SF Bay. Three holes faced the wind (the longest holes, of course! 120, 150 & 165 yds), three holes with the wind, two holes with a right wind, and one hole into a left facing wind. It was so windy I had to use a hybrid to get to the 165 yd 6th green!

I shot a 36 on the par 27 (2 pars, one triple, the rest 4's), and the son shot a 35... seems like terrible scores, but with trying the new swing the scores really meant nothing. It's the new swing that means everything right now. We hit about 50 balls at the range to "get used" to the funny swing. I am a 90's shooter, so bogey/double bogey golf is quite normal for me.

So the first thing to say is . . . This Swing Works! I'm in my early fifties and my body is not a flexible as it used to be. Even with stretch and strength exercises I can't get around the plynth like I used to. With this swing, it is easier to get around on the backswing. I can stay on top of the ball instead of back swinging away from, then "sliding" back to the ball.

Contact with the ball was crisper than I am used to. I can use my hands better to get down on the ball. The downswing is steeper, and when I remember to keep the back arm tucked in it is easier to hit the ball first, then the grass. The divots are now where they should be . . in front of the ball! I noticed that I need to get closer to the ball at address, which is a little weird right now. I feel like I'm completely on top of the ball. If I forgot to get on top I would hit the ball on the toe of the club. It's part of the lesson.

As always, hitting into the wind was a chore. But I noticed that with the steeper downswing the ball was boring thru the wind instead of ballooning and flying up and over to the other fairway on the right. The ball had more of a tour-like trajectory. The ball flight started low, then slowly climbed up into the wind. Like a vertically faced banana . . .

I read only about half the Golf Digest "Stack & Tilt" article, so I have a ways to go before this swing gets better. I duffed the swing a couple of times (natural amateur move), forgetting to keep my back arm tucked in. But I am verrrrry excited about the Stack & Tilt swing.

Don't know if or by how much my scores will change, but how can I lose? I stink with the "old" modern swing anyway! I am going to stick with this new swing. It's awesome.



PS... my sand saves were 3 for 3. Yeah, lots of wind.

PS2... I don't think this swing is "new". I think it is a swing that is being relived from the "old days".

Maybe with a new twist to it.

[Bigvivec]

What is the distance like?

[Game Face]

Originally Posted by Bigvivec

What is the distance like?

My 7 iron distance is usually about 135-140 yds. I got about 150-160 at the range. I got the 8 iron to go from
about 125 yds to about 140 or so. It would be unfair to give accurate distances since the wind was howling so.

The backspin on the short irons was extraordinary. . . for me anyway. I've been working so hard on trying
to get the ball to check from any reasonable distance, and I finally was able to do that today.

This swing is so new that I really can't say much either way. I can say that after about 10-15 swings that I
started to feel more comfortable. Kind of like the comfort of a recliner compared to a lawnchair.

[BrianT.]

When I was reading the article in Golf Digest it was almost like I was looking at my own swing. I think that I just naturally tend to have this kind of swing. I think it does keep your irons crisp, because I've always had a lot of spin, but that does not help on the driver, so I have had to adapt a different swing for the driver, which is more like the modern swing. It works.

[Game Face]

Originally Posted by BrianT.

When I was reading the article in Golf Digest it was almost like I was looking at my own swing. I think that I just naturally tend to have this kind of swing. I think it does keep your irons crisp, because I've always had a lot of spin, but that does not help on the driver, so I have had to adapt a different swing for the driver, which is more like the modern swing. It works.

Irons . . . crisp . . . same sentence . . . for me, that's a revelation!

I think the driver is going to take some work. I had a little bit of success with it (ie, straighter, but not longer). I also tried something different... I did not ground the driver. Kept it off the floor at address. I was able to hit the ball more consistently at or near the sweet spot. I think there will be some positives come out of that.

I hit my 3 wood real good (about 20 yds further and straighter), as well as the hybrid, which I have had trouble with from the start.

Reminder... this was all at the driving range with range balls and swirling wind.

I think this is going to be a delightful work-in-progress.

[cosine]

Sounds interesting. Was it in this month's Golf Digest? (might have to go pick one up...)

[Game Face]

Originally Posted by cosine

Sounds interesting. Was it in this month's Golf Digest? (might have to go pick one up...)

June '07 edition.

When I read the article (well, half of it so far ) it started to make good sense to me.

I tend to lean left anyway, usually ending up in the reverse "C" stance. I have to concentrate so much on the first part of the swing, that by the time I get thru it, the rest of the swing may end up wrong because I used all my thoughts on the first part.. It's not easy for me to rock back to the right heel on the backswing, then over to the left side for the follow thru.

[Stiofan]

Here's a video of it.

[Badbub45]

I read about this, but not sure if I want to try it. I just now got my swing down and I don't want to go messing around on some other swing. But I guess I will have to give it a try just to see, and if the results are better I might change over.

[titaniummd]

This is exactly what I meant about how I now swinging the club:

GolfDigest.com - Stack & Tilt: Try it for yourself

It has a similar feel, to me, as the Gravity Golf swing. I am standing more upright with my feet closer together.

[deronsizemore]

I'll go ahead and throw my .02 in here. I can say that this swing DOES work. I actually made a thread about it probably three years ago at the old Golf Rewind. I was having one heck of a time on the range one day and a buddy of mine who at the time was playing on the Hooter's Tour comes over to take a look at my swing. He immediately saw that I was swaying a little on the backswing as I really trying to transfer my weight to my back foot and then really trying to transfer it back to my front foot but I never was getting there. I was hitting fat, shank, top, etc....

So he simply told me, "put about 60% of your weight on your front foot and swing never transferring your weight to your backfoot". He said this would help with the swaying and it would help me stay centered over the ball.

I started swinging like this one the range and it was like turning a light switch on and off. I went from hitting the ball terrible to hitting the ball perfect again. He said that his pro had been working with him on this type of swing (maybe his pro at the time was the same guy in golf digest?) and that he used it on every single shot and he said a lot of the Hooter's Tour guys were doing it as well.

After reading the article it made me remember this swing and I'm going to start using it again I think. I still have problems with hitting behind the ball every now and then and I believe this will help.

[flomarilius]

I really want to try this but I am not in the mood to mess up my swing with a series of tournaments coming up in the coming weeks !

[Bigvivec]

Originally Posted by flomarilius

I really want to try this but I am not in the mood to mess up my swing with a series of tournaments coming up in the coming weeks !

You just shot two personal bests in the last two weeks...why would you want to change anything?

[flomarilius]

According to the Digest it makes you get longer. God knows I need to hit a 7 Iron longer than 155 if I am going to make it any where in the future!

[Game Face]

Originally Posted by flomarilius

According to the Digest it makes you get longer. God knows I need to hit a 7 Iron longer than 155 if I am going to make it any where in the future!

You might want to change to Titleist.

[deronsizemore]

I read that article again and it was talking about Andy Plummer being from Kentucky. I did some searching and he actually grew up here and played golf for Eastern Kentucky University which is twenty minutes away. I wish I could remember the name of the guy that taught this move to my buddy who in turn showed me. Probably a pretty good possibility that it was Andy being that he's a native Kentuckian (although I don't know for sure)

[Bigvivec]

Here's one more link:
GolfDigest.com - Multimedia

Should preclude anyone having to buy this...everything is avaliable here...it sounds interesting...of course I have to try it!!!

[xnavyct]

I am intrigued by this ever since I read it in GD this month, but then again, there seems to be a miracle game-changing move every other month in the golf mags. However, this one seems to be getting good reviews and word of mouth here on the forum - much more so than usual.
My #1 problem is weight transfer from back to front during the swing. Sometimes it doesn't even happen, and my weight never transfers, staying on the back. Not good. I think that plus the fact that I am a plus 100 golfer, makes it sense for me to try this - what have I got to lose?

[Game Face]

Originally Posted by Bigvivec

Here's one more link:
GolfDigest.com - Multimedia

Should preclude anyone having to buy this...everything is avaliable here...it sounds interesting...of course I have to try it!!!

Thanks for the videos! We were watching Baddeley and a couple of others during the weekend, trying to get as much out of this as we could. These vids will be nice to study at home. I'm going to bring my digi-cam to the range for comparison. Hopefully this will help us out.

[deronsizemore]

Originally Posted by Bigvivec

Here's one more link:
GolfDigest.com - Multimedia

Should preclude anyone having to buy this...everything is avaliable here...it sounds interesting...of course I have to try it!!!

I saw these, but for whatever reason they will not open on my machine.

[Game Face]

Originally Posted by deronsizemore

I saw these, but for whatever reason they will not open on my machine.

They did not either the first time I tried them. It's all good now though.... why? I do not know...



computers.... weird wired whacky science.

[Game Face]

Was Byron Nelson's swing similar to the S&T swing?

GolfDigest.com - Multimedia


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