Matchplay question

[Ty_Webb]

What's the maximum possible winning score in an 18 hole matchplay game?

[Leaguegolf]

10 and 8 in an 18 hole match. 19 and 17 in a 36 hole match.

[Ty_Webb]

Nope. It's much more than that. You need to think about penalties as well as holes won or lost.

[Leaguegolf]

Originally Posted by Ty_Webb

Nope. It's much more than that. You need to think about penalties as well as holes won or lost.

Other than disqualification from the match, a hole not played cannot be awarded to a player. How does one win matches "much more than that?"

[delong19]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

Other than disqualification from the match, a hole not played cannot be awarded to a player. How does one win matches "much more than that?"

The only way I can figure is if a match goes the distance and player A wins on 18 only later to find out that player B committed penalties on each hole he/she won or halved, in which the penalty the breach was loss of hole. Then in theory player A wins 18 - 0. Although this situation is extremely unlikely i suppose it is possible.

[Ty_Webb]

After two holes have been completed that Player A wins both of, Player B realises that he has 15 clubs in his bag. The penalty for this is two further holes lost, so he's 4 down after 2. There are more.

[Leaguegolf]

Originally Posted by Ty_Webb

After two holes have been completed that Player A wins both of, Player B realises that he has 15 clubs in his bag. The penalty for this is two further holes lost, so he's 4 down after 2. There are more.

From the USGA Decisions on the Rules of Golf..........

Rule 4-4 Maximum of 14 Clubs

PENALTY FOR BREACH OF RULE 4-4a or b, REGARDLEESS OF NUMBER OF EXCESS CLUBS CARRIED:

Match Play - At the conclusion of the hole at which the breach is discovered, the state of the match is adjusted by deducting one hole for each hole at which the breach occurred. Maximum deduction per round: Two holes.

I see nowhere in this penalty where is says a player is awarded, or deducted, holes that have yet to be played. In your example, Player B stands two down on the third tee, even if he had won the first two holes.

Please site any rule that awards "further" holes, or holes yet to be played .

[Fourputt]

Decision 14-4a/9 (second scenario)

(2) After the 2nd hole, it is discovered that B has more than 14 clubs:
(a) If B won both holes — the match is all square.
(b) If B was 1 up — A is 1 up.
(c) If the match was all square — A is 2 up.
(d) If A was 1 up — A is 3 up.
(e) If A was 2 up — A is 4 up.

A could be dormie after the 8th hole 10 up with 10 to play, and the match could be won on the 9th hole 11 and 9.

[atticusfinch]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

From the USGA Decisions on the Rules of Golf..........

Rule 4-4 Maximum of 14 Clubs

PENALTY FOR BREACH OF RULE 4-4a or b, REGARDLEESS OF NUMBER OF EXCESS CLUBS CARRIED:

Match Play - At the conclusion of the hole at which the breach is discovered, the state of the match is adjusted by deducting one hole for each hole at which the breach occurred. Maximum deduction per round: Two holes.

I see nowhere in this penalty where is says a player is awarded, or deducted, holes that have yet to be played. In your example, Player B stands two down on the third tee, even if he had won the first two holes.

Please site any rule that awards "further" holes, or holes yet to be played .

The score is "adjusted"

[atticusfinch]

Originally Posted by Ty_Webb

What's the maximum possible winning score in an 18 hole matchplay game?

[quote=atticusfinch;41546]The score is "adjusted" Maximum: 14 and 12[/[/QUOTE

[Ty_Webb]

Hmm, I heard it was 15&13. Explanation as follows.

Player B loses the first two holes, at which point it is discovered that he:

- is carrying 15 clubs
- has been using a ball in violation of the one ball condition
- has been riding a cart in a walking only competition
- and has two caddies

all of which carry a two hole penalty, so he's 10 down after 2. He then loses the next two holes, to be 12 down with 14 to play. It is then discovered that his remaining caddie is barred from acting, which is a further two hole deduction and he is dormie 14. He then loses the fifth to lose the match 15&13.