Relief and the Divot.

[OnePutt]

The matter of divots and getting to move the ball has been going back and forth for a long time on this any other sites. So why not find out who thinks we should get to move the ball out of a divot, and who thinks we should not ??

Well, here's your chance to voice your opinion, Please reply to test post by stating your opinion. A simple YES or NO will do. Please limit yourself to ONE posting, so we can get an accurate count. I"d do a poll, but I don't trust everyone here to only vote once, and I'd like a true count of what the other site members really believe.

To start things off. I vote YES. Your turn.

[Diane]

No, I don't think we should be able to improve a lie by moving a ball out of a divot.

[Samsquanch]

No. Stuff happens

[Fourputt]

No!

[bignose]

-No-

[coralpro]

I'd say yes as far to the equity issue. As far as how the ball lies I could care less myself as I think it adds intrigue to the shot making similar as it would be if you were playing in a cow pasture or sheep pasture as when the game was originated. The only real issue is someone could have played a shot from the exact same place before you and they would not have had to play from a divot and yet you do which is an equity issue. If a fairway is somewhat considered the ideal playing position for a well struck drive then why should one be rewarded and one be given a bad lie for hitting to the exact same spot on the fairway? Again I could care less but it does pose the inequittable comparison. I wouldn't have a problem allowing the rule to allow for drops in the case of a divot but the same would have to be done if one lucked out and had their ball land in a divot in deep rough giving them a cleaner lie.

[Darth Fader]

NO,thats the breaks.

[Leaguegolf]

Originally Posted by OnePutt

I"d do a poll, but I don't trust everyone here to only vote once, and I'd like a true count of what the other site members really believe.

To start things off. I vote YES. Your turn.

NO

I see that you're a real trusting sort. Don't worry, I won't kick my ball out of the divot.

BTW.....A poll can be created that only allows members to vote once.

[coralpro]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

NO


BTW.....A poll can be created that only allows members to vote once.

This is a golf forum and we have to accept that honesty rules in golf discussions. If someone votes more than once it will be suicide.

[Wazmankg]

NO.



I'd be willing to consider exceptions for sand-filled divots. They should be identified as GUR.

[coralpro]

Originally Posted by Wazmankg

NO.



I'd be willing to consider exceptions for sand-filled divots. They should be identified as GUR.

So, you want to have it both ways. Then why not say yes/no or maybe.

[Diane]

Originally Posted by coralpro

So, you want to have it both ways. Then why not say yes/no or maybe.

I was thinking the same thing.

[Wazmankg]

Originally Posted by coralpro

So, you want to have it both ways. Then why not say yes/no or maybe.

Because they are 2 very different things IMO. For the record my answer is NO. But a divot that's been filled with a sand mix IS under repair and I wouldn't be opposed to them being marked as such.

[coralpro]

Originally Posted by Wazmankg

Because they are 2 very different things IMO. For the record my answer is NO. But a divot that's been filled with a sand mix IS under repair and I wouldn't be opposed to them being marked as such.

OK, then by the same line of thinking, the ground that was torn up by the previous golfer could also be assessed as ground under repair as well. Very similar scenerios but you think one is unfair or incorrect and the other isn't. Personally I don't mind either and if given the choice would much rather have the sand filled divot. At least you're not hitting below the surface of your stance and having to adjust for it.

[GenErr]

YES - but only in your own fairway.

[Fourputt]

Originally Posted by GenErr

YES - but only in your own fairway.

That isn't even possible because the rules don't recognize the term "fairway", much less who is in possession of one.

[coralpro]

Originally Posted by Fourputt

That isn't even possible because the rules don't recognize the term "fairway", much less who is in possession of one.

Funny, but I knew what he meant.

[Fileygolfer]

NO, and also relief from a burrowing animal on a closely-mown area only.

[atticusfinch]

Originally Posted by OnePutt

The matter of divots and getting to move the ball has been going back and forth for a long time on this any other sites. So why not find out who thinks we should get to move the ball out of a divot, and who thinks we should not ??

Well, here's your chance to voice your opinion, Please reply to test post by stating your opinion. A simple YES or NO will do. Please limit yourself to ONE posting, so we can get an accurate count. I"d do a poll, but I don't trust everyone here to only vote once, and I'd like a true count of what the other site members really believe.

To start things off. I vote YES. Your turn.

As of this post the results are: Are you in favor of a change in the rules that would allow relief from a divot hole?

Yes--2

No--8

Non answer--2

[petermo]

NO!

[Bigvivec]

Yes and scorecards should come with pencils with big erasers...

C'mon...why not just title the thread "Who thinks it's ok to cheat!?!?!??"

[Johneli]

Yesterday at the Accenture on the fifth hole a player (Can't remember who) lost the hole because he hit TWO fairway divots on the same hole!