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[Ty_Webb]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

Let's put Tiger in with Jack and Tom at Turnberry in '77 and see what happens.

Fine. After that we can chuck them all in at Pebble Beach in 2000 and Augusta in 97. Those should make for interesting viewing too. While we're at it, we could also have a crack at St Andrews in 2000 and Hoylake in 2006.

[coralpro]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

You're reading the Coralpro version of the history books again. The rest of the golf world knows history still says Jack 18.....Tiger 14. I'm not surprised by your response though. After all, you kept telling us OU was better than the teams that beat them. Until Tiger surpasses Jack's mark, Jack will remain the standard all others are measured by. There's no disputing that.

I didn't want to be the one that brought this up but..........No one ever in a million years thought that the great Arnold Palmer would be done winning majors at the age of 35. Golf is a fickle game and Tiger is not immune.

Did you conveniently forget my proposed bet?

I forgot nothing as I posted you're on big guy. Perhaps if I said big girl you'd have recognized the response?

[mr3856a]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

This is why it was tougher for Jack to win majors than Tiger. I'd much rather play against 100 guys that might beat me than 6 that have.

I don't know, I think I'd rather face a thin field with a few good players than a much deeper field. Just look at the likes of Shawn Micheel, Beemer, Hamilton, Michael Campbell, Zach Johnson, etc. - even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[Leaguegolf]

Originally Posted by Ty_Webb

Fine. After that we can chuck them all in at Pebble Beach in 2000 and Augusta in 97. Those should make for interesting viewing too. While we're at it, we could also have a crack at St Andrews in 2000 and Hoylake in 2006.

Just more examples of events that would certainly rewrite the history books.....for all involved.

[mr3856a]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

You're so right about Tiger still having a ways to go.

This stretch of Jack's (thanks Ty_Webb ) compares very favorably and doesn't include a missed cut.

1, 1, 1, 2, T13, T3, T4, 4, 1, T4, T10, 3, 2, 1

Compare the winners of the majors Jack didn't win in that stretch with the winners of the majors Tiger didn't win in his stretch and get back to me......pal.

With weaker fields you would expect more repeat winners. Nobody's disputing there were more top players in Jack's day, but after like the 10th best player, there was a dropoff like the Grand Canyon.

[mr3856a]

Originally Posted by Ty_Webb

Incorrect. The history books showed Jack won more majors. Not that he was better.

True that Tiger doesn't have the chance to beat Jack, Arnie, etc, but if he did, he'd beat them too. I reckon Phil and Ernie would give them a pretty good run too.

[Leaguegolf]

Originally Posted by coralpro

You're on there bud. Oh' and I never let my stubble grow out enough to be considered in the top 10 of the bums of the month.

I never judge a bum by his cover.

[Leaguegolf]

Originally Posted by coralpro

I forgot nothing as I posted you're on big guy. Perhaps if I said big girl you'd have recognized the response?

I hope you kept my address..........you'll be needing it.........again.

[Ty_Webb]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

I hope you kept my address..........you'll be needing it.........again.

Ah, the early gloat. That's what we like to see.

[coralpro]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

I hope you kept my address..........you'll be needing it.........again.

I kept it but forgot to send the april fools gift. Again though, it really doesn't have to be a special calender day for me to send you a fools gift.

[droogy33]

Originally Posted by Wazmankg

There's something to that, though it's a bit of an overstatement. Arnie won $100k in 1963, that's roughly $700k in today's dollars. Watson went over $500k in 1975 which is > $2,000,000 in todays dollars. I can't find extensive stats prior to 1980, but in 1980 the 100th guy on the money list made roughly $100k in today's dollars.

Just thought I'd throw this one out there:

Jack Nicklaus earned his first paycheck on 1961's version of the PGA TOUR by finishing in a tie 60th (which, coincidentally, is what Tiger finished in his pro debut) at the L.A. Open, at Rancho Park Golf Course...$33.33.

[Leaguegolf]

Originally Posted by coralpro

I kept it but forgot to send the april fools gift. Again though, it really doesn't have to be a special calender day for me to send you a fools gift.

I've been known to accept gifts.........even those from fools.

For the record.........WGR Top 10 as of today:


1.Woods
2.Mickelson
3.Scott
4.Ogilvy
5.Els
6.Garcia
7.Rose
8.Stricker
9.Singh
10.Furyk


If any of these players wins either of the remaining 2008 majors, you get your balls back.

[coralpro]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

I've been known to accept gifts.........even those from fools.

For the record.........WGR Top 10 as of today:


1.Woods
2.Mickelson
3.Scott
4.Ogilvy
5.Els
6.Garcia
7.Rose
8.Stricker
9.Singh
10.Furyk


If any of these players wins either of the remaining 2008 majors, you get your balls back.

You have to move 11 to ten since Tiger was out of the equation. Without him it would be only nine. Goit to have all the breaks I can get since the numbers are on your side.

[PA PLAYA]

I used to belly-ache all the time that no one would step up to the plate and challenge Tiger. Some of these guys have had their chances. Ernie, Phil, Vijay, Adam Scott, Goosen, Furyk, Sergio, or just about any tour player you wish to enter into the equation.

I've come to accept it. And I guess the thing that has helped make it easier to accept is that ultimately, they just don't have the drive to win like Tiger does.

Kenny Perry turned down the chance to play in the US Open because he wasn't thrilled with the idea of playing 36 holes in one day to qualify. Fair enough. But contrast that with Tiger, who hadn't played for two months. Who had a torn ACL, a stress fracture, and knee surgery 8 weeks prior. He knew it would be rough. He knew it would be painful. He knew that it would test him like never before, despite the US Open conditions that awaited him. And he knew that his season was basically over, after this event.

He could've simply said that he wasn't ready, and that his injuries were too much for him to discount to play. And maybe that would've been the practical decision in the end. But he chose to play. Some will argue that he chose to play because of the venue. But I believe that ultimately he chose to play because he has a drive to win that no other person in the history of the game (imo) has ever had. And we all know what happened.

Of all the attributes that people conveniently tout that Tiger has that the rest of his peers don't have, his drive is what ultimately puts him in a class all to himself. All of those attributes that he has, they're a product of that drive.

He's gonna be out of golf for 8-10 months. For just about anyone else on tour, the expectations afterward would be uncertain, at best. But for him, he probably sees this as yet another challenge in his career to overcome. That drive is what will most likely bring him back next season good as ever, with very few uncertainties.

If he can beat the world's best golfers on one leg, then obviously he can find a way to do it again healthy. And again, his drive -- his desire to win -- is what will ultimately distinguish him from everyone else in the history of the game.

So in a way, he should be at that level all to himself. No one else wants to win as bad as he does. You can teach the game, but you can't teach desire.

[Leaguegolf]

Originally Posted by coralpro

You have to move 11 to ten since Tiger was out of the equation. Without him it would be only nine. Goit to have all the breaks I can get since the numbers are on your side.

I have to do no such thing. Did you, or did you not, accept this bet?

Originally Posted by leaguegolf

I've got another sleeve of balls that says not one player currently ranked in the top 10 wins either of the remaining two majors.

Originally Posted by coralpro

You're on there bud.

I know you are way out there sometimes but on my planet......a bet is a bet.

BTW....I counted on the "put up or shut up" comment to reel you in.

[Diane]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

If any of these players wins either of the remaining 2008 majors, you get your balls back.

Why would CP want your used balls? You won't even spring for new ones?

[coralpro]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

I have to do no such thing. Did you, or did you not, accept this bet?





I know you are way out there sometimes but on my planet......a bet is a bet.

BTW....I counted on the "put up or shut up" comment to reel you in.

Yes but by technicality one can't play.
Ok forget it I'll stick with what you posted and that's that. I'll show you that I can get you even if you want to play low ball.

[Leaguegolf]

Originally Posted by coralpro

Yes but by technicality one can't play.
Ok forget it I'll stick with what you posted and that's that. I'll show you that I can get you even if you want to play low ball.

Technicality? Low ball? No way!! The bet was spelled out very clearly. What part of "current top ten" do you not understand?

[coralpro]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

Technicality? Low ball? No way!! The bet was spelled out very clearly. What part of "current top ten" do you not understand?

Yes but if one can't play that makes top 9 doesn't it??????????

[Leaguegolf]

Originally Posted by coralpro

Yes but if one can't play that makes top 9 doesn't it??????????

The bet was CURRENT TOP 10!

Not how many of the top 10 could play.

The current list was posted and the bet was made. Quit whining.