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**Bigvivec** · #1 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 11:58 AM

So I've got a question to throw out there...

Has it crossed anyone's mind that the drug testing of PGA players that starts this week coincides with Tiger's 9 month hiatus from the game? I know this is pure blasphemy, and I don't believe the two have anything to do with each other...but a small part of me playing devil's advocate says that there is no such thing as coincidence...a 6 months "washing out" period covers nails, hair and blood...

Just thinking...

**halk** · #2 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 12:04 PM

I have to say that though has crossed my mind more that once over the past couple weeks, I know just like Bigvivec said it's pure coincidence but makes one think twice................hmmm.

Ty_Webb · #3 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 12:19 PM

I've heard other people suggesting similar, but they've known the drug testing was coming for more than six months, so my own personal opinion is that if he was genuinely worried about that, then it would have been somewhat easier to stop six months ago, rather than miss out on two majors and the rest of the season.

I don't know the details of the testing policy, but I wouldn't be surprised if they could go test Tiger during this period anyway. I can't believe he would take a risk like that. Not to mention that if there's actually nothing wrong with his knee, that's a lot of people you have to keep quiet who would make huge stacks of cash by selling the story to the newspapers.

***Leaguegolf*** · #4 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigvivec

So I've got a question to throw out there...

Has it crossed anyone's mind that the drug testing of PGA players that starts this week coincides with Tiger's 9 month hiatus from the game? I know this is pure blasphemy, and I don't believe the two have anything to do with each other...but a small part of me playing devil's advocate says that there is no such thing as coincidence...a 6 months "washing out" period covers nails, hair and blood...

Just thinking...

I read somewhere recently (I'm looking, I'm looking

) that Tiger has been tested twice with no problems. Tiger was so in tune with the testing that he made sure a minor change in his medications would not result in a positive test. I'm also not sure that simply because Tiger isn't playing he is exempt from testing.

My all time foavorite line about drug testing pro golfers.........."As long as Tiger is clean, it doesn't matter what the rest of the guys are on."

DonnaKay · #5 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 12:29 PM

Any Tour member can be tested at any time, whether on medical leave or not. So his hiatus doesn't protect Tiger from being tested.

**halk** · #6 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 12:35 PM

I know this is not on subject and it may have been covered elsewhere. Couple days go I heard on a sports radio talk show that Tiger had made the statement that he may or may not return to golf next year or anytime in the future. Anyone else heard this?

Fileygolfer · #7 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 01:40 PM

The main change to the majority of players from now will be that they check whats in any medication they take.

There is a Cough Syrup here in the UK that tells a "Breathaliser" that you are FOUR times over the limit even though you may not have had a drink for a month.

BunkerBound21 · #8 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by halk

I know this is not on subject and it may have been covered elsewhere. Couple days go I heard on a sports radio talk show that Tiger had made the statement that he may or may not return to golf next year or anytime in the future. Anyone else heard this?

That would be absurd! he is going to be the best golfer in history when he is done with his career... i dont fore see him retiring until he holds all the records.

maybe it was misheard... because he did say that he wont be playing for a long time, in his interview after the Open.

**halk** · #9 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BunkerBound21

That would be absurd! he is going to be the best golfer in history when he is done with his career... i dont fore see him retiring until he holds all the records.

maybe it was misheard... because he did say that he wont be playing for a long time, in his interview after the Open.

It very well could have been this was on a sports talk radio show that is tied into ESPN radio it seems these guys are all the time turning things around so they can sensationalize it. I enjoy listen to them driving in to work in the mornings but do not put much stock in what they have to say. Just wondering if anyone else had heard anything similar. Plus golf would really be boring if Tiger were not around.

JPsuff · #10 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigvivec

So I've got a question to throw out there...

Has it crossed anyone's mind that the drug testing of PGA players that starts this week coincides with Tiger's 9 month hiatus from the game? I know this is pure blasphemy, and I don't believe the two have anything to do with each other...but a small part of me playing devil's advocate says that there is no such thing as coincidence...a 6 months "washing out" period covers nails, hair and blood...

Just thinking...

And people talk about MY conspiracy theories?

-JP

PA PLAYA · #11 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 06:57 PM

I would be shocked, needless to say.

Tiger would never do anything to disgrace the significance of his father. Earl raised him better than that. It doesn't mean that Tiger's perfect, but he certainly prepared his son for success by teaching him the importance of values, discipline, and a good work ethic.

YouTube - Nike Golf - Never - Tiger Woods

essurfer · #12 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 07:32 PM

I can see where the manic radio talk show crowd is coming from but thats never going to happen

Putton · #13 (**permalink**) 07-03-2008, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigvivec

So I've got a question to throw out there...

Has it crossed anyone's mind that the drug testing of PGA players that starts this week coincides with Tiger's 9 month hiatus from the game? I know this is pure blasphemy, and I don't believe the two have anything to do with each other...but a small part of me playing devil's advocate says that there is no such thing as coincidence...a 6 months "washing out" period covers nails, hair and blood...

Just thinking...

Wrong BigV

In his interview for the AT & T Tiger was asked and he said he has been tested twice until now.

***Wazmankg*** · #14 (**permalink**) 07-03-2008, 01:11 AM

Until they have an effective test for HGH these other tests are meaingless, just glorified IQ tests.

**Bigvivec** · #15 (**permalink**) 07-03-2008, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JPsuff

And people talk about MY conspiracy theories?

-JP

Just puttin' it out there...

The PGA has as much or more to lose from Tiger testing positive...I don't think that there's a chance that they would "go after" him, but suppose he did have something currently in his system that might be considered somewhat benign as far as serious 'roids or the like are concerned, but are still on the banned list, and the PGA encouraged him to take his time coming back...say at least 6 months or so...

Regardless, no one is coming out to the Tiger estate and asking for a sample during his recovery...while currently not active, there is no requirement that he declare himself "retired" or "on the DL" or "active"...I would imagine testing would occur at an event, not random house calls or visits to area sanctioned testing facilities sprinkled around the country...just because a player has his card is he breaking any rules if he never enters another tournament? That's why Tiger won't be tested IMO, or any other player, until they register for a tournament and show up to check in...

I'm just saying it COULD be a reason...

Ty_Webb · #16 (**permalink**) 07-03-2008, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigvivec

I'm just saying it COULD be a reason...

This is I guess true, but I suspect there's as much chance that this is the reason as there is of me winning the lottery this week.

Since I'm not going to buy a ticket, I'd say that was fairly minimal.

Diane · #17 (**permalink**) 07-06-2008, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigvivec

Regardless, no one is coming out to the Tiger estate and asking for a sample during his recovery...while currently not active, there is no requirement that he declare himself "retired" or "on the DL" or "active"...I would imagine testing would occur at an event, not random house calls or visits to area sanctioned testing facilities sprinkled around the country...just because a player has his card is he breaking any rules if he never enters another tournament? That's why Tiger won't be tested IMO, or any other player, until they register for a tournament and show up to check in...

BigV - Did you read DonnaKay's post? I think Tiger will be tested - he's still in the running for the FedEx - right?

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Originally Posted by DonnaKay

Any Tour member can be tested at any time, whether on medical leave or not. So his hiatus doesn't protect Tiger from being tested.

**Bigvivec** · #18 (**permalink**) 07-06-2008, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Diane

BigV - Did you read DonnaKay's post? I think Tiger will be tested - he's still in the running for the FedEx - right?

Did you read mine? Unless they are going to make housecalls, I don't think that testing will occur until a golfer sets foot on a tournament site...

Tsk, tsk Diane...

Diane · #19 (**permalink**) 07-06-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigvivec

Did you read mine? Unless they are going to make housecalls, I don't think that testing will occur until a golfer sets foot on a tournament site...
Tsk, tsk Diane...

Yes, I read your post. I always read every word you write.

You could be right.

mr3856a · #20 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigvivec

So I've got a question to throw out there...

Has it crossed anyone's mind that the drug testing of PGA players that starts this week coincides with Tiger's 9 month hiatus from the game? I know this is pure blasphemy, and I don't believe the two have anything to do with each other...but a small part of me playing devil's advocate says that there is no such thing as coincidence...a 6 months "washing out" period covers nails, hair and blood...

Just thinking...

I would guess he's still subject to testing; he's still a member of the Tour.

mr3856a · #21 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

I read somewhere recently (I'm looking, I'm looking

) that Tiger has been tested twice with no problems. Tiger was so in tune with the testing that he made sure a minor change in his medications would not result in a positive test. I'm also not sure that simply because Tiger isn't playing he is exempt from testing.

My all time foavorite line about drug testing pro golfers.........."As long as Tiger is clean, it doesn't matter what the rest of the guys are on."

That was from George O'Grady, CEO of the European Tour

And Tiger did say that he was tested twice, the second time actually after a change in one of his supplements (I believe Whey protein). I think it's on his website.