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Old 07-17-2008, 03:35 PM
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Re: Should the Open always be in Scotland?

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Go into The PGA Latest Golf News and Features and learn something.

The point you have not answered is

Who except the PGA have the right to call their championship, the PGA Championship?
This one more than intrigues me, Lefty.

I was not aware that rights were established on this matter. Is there some kind of Bill Of Rights in existence somewhere? Have the golfing bodies of the world passed down legislation of some kind? Did I miss this? Please advise.
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:52 PM
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was not aware that rights were established on this matter. Is there some kind of Bill Of Rights in existence somewhere? Have the golfing bodies of the world passed down legislation of some kind? Did I miss this? Please advise.
I thought the question was very simple. If there is an organisation called the PGA, how can someone else call their championship the PGA Championship?



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Old 07-17-2008, 03:55 PM
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The PGAChampionship held by the PGA of America is regarded in Europe as the USPGA ,because the PGA holds its championship in MAy at Wentworth. That is an objective fact.
I'm not asking what anything is regarded as or referred to as; the Open Championship is commonly referred to in the U.S. as the British Open - are you telling me, then, that it is "objective fact" that the Open Championship is actually called the British Open?

Don't try circular reasoning with me, it ain't gonna work, pal.

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If you restrict yourself to American media , you may end up learning very little.
Well, now we're back to my earlier post that you've avoided like the plague - is the BBC erroneous in calling the British PGA Championship the the British PGA Championship? What about all of the other UK sources I provided? Was Nick Faldo - who actually WON the event - simply mistaken when he said he won the British PGA Championship? Should we give him a call and tell him the British PGA was in fact not his first professional victory, that he in fact won some other tournament? Is there something you know that the World Golf Hall of Fame doesn't?

I'm still waiting...
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:01 PM
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Re: Should the Open always be in Scotland?

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Don't try circular reasoning with me
Normal reasoning does not work , and as you talk in circles, it seemed an option.

American media refers to the Open as the British due to ignorance. When Europeans talk to American media they call it by the name the media will recognise out of politeness. They also talk slowly. The US PGA is afforded the same .

If you go to the BBC or the European Tour you will see the USPGA Championship correctly titled. See link above.

If you go into Google.co.uk and enter PGA Championship, you will learn more.

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I thought the question was very simple. If there is an organisation called the PGA, how can someone else call their championship the PGA Championship?
I thought the question was very simple as well, but I guess there are different levels of simplicity. You can ask an irrelevant hypotheticals all you want, it doesn't change anything.

Do you have anything whatsoever to counter the objective evidence I provided? How about my BBC link?

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BBC - North East Wales Sport - Ian Woosnam


(I know the answer is "no" and so do you, but I just figured I'd ask)
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Re: Should the Open always be in Scotland?

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I thought the question was very simple. If there is an organisation called the PGA, how can someone else call their championship the PGA Championship?
Well, Lefty, the answer is very simple.

If someone calls their endeavor by a name which is not in existence, I suppose they have every right to do so.

And other people show respect and consideration by referring to that endeavor by the name of its creators. That is class, grace and respect. If you, and your fellow Brits, show that class and consideration, it will be repaid.
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:06 PM
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American media refers to the Open as the British due to ignorance.
So is Tiger ignorant? How about Jack? They've both referred to it as the British Open. And don't look now, but you've just been proven wrong... AGAIN.

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If you go into Google.co.uk and enter PGA Championship, you will learn more.


Maybe YOU should try that!!!

pga championship - Google UK Search

First 3 links:

PGA.com :: The Official Home of the PGA of America

The 2007 PGA Championship

PGA Championship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now THAT was the laugh of the day - thanks!!!
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Re: Should the Open always be in Scotland?

Are we going to go through this 'The Open' or 'The British Open' thing every July?
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Are we going to go through this 'The Open' or 'The British Open' thing every July?
You'll have to ask Lefty, he's the one who doesn't get it.
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:14 PM
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Re: Should the Open always be in Scotland?

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American Chronicle | Why do they call Americans 'dumb?'


I shall leave the last word to an American.
Poorly written article.

And thanks for the last word. I shall use it wisely.

I would much rather be seen as "dumb," but classy, rather than being seen as learned and cultured, but lacking grace and class.
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:20 PM
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Poorly written article.
And what's even funnier is that it doesn't even say what he thinks it does, which shouldn't be that much of a surprise considering the source (and I'm not referring to the publication).
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:24 PM
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Re: Should the Open always be in Scotland?

Word Mark: PGA CHAMPIONSHIP

Owner (REGISTRANT): The Professional Golfers' Association of America

Trademark Electronic Search System (TESS)

I guess the United States Patent and Trademark Office has it wrong as well

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Old 07-17-2008, 04:25 PM
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Re: Should the Open always be in Scotland?

Well, this one got out of hand. I think we've had enough bickering over semantics...*thread closed*
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