Snedeker Eliminated with a 4-Jack

[Leaguegolf]

Anyone else see this? I saw the video and it was hard to watch. I didn't look at the numbers but does anyone know what this 4-jack from 12 feet cost him, on top of a chance to play in the Tour Championship finale'?

Brandt Snedeker butchers 18 to miss playoff finale

LEMONT, Ill. – John Senden secured the 30th and final spot for the Tour Championship, giving him at least a mathematical chance of the $10 million prize and a spot in three of the majors next year.
How he made it required a bizarre sequence of bad golf. Senden failed to do his part by closing with a 77 in the BMW Championship, which included a wedge he chunked so badly that it came up 40 yards short of the green, and a bunker shot he practically shanked into a water hazard. He was saved by a shocking finish from Brandt Snedeker. Needing only two putts from 12 feet on the final hole at Cog Hill to make bogey earn an unlikely spot at East Lake, Snedeker four-putted for triple bogey.

The crucial miss was a 3-foot bogey putt that he tried to jam in the cup, only for it to catch the lip. Stunned by the miss, Snedeker missed the next two from tap-in range.

“I can’t believe I did this,” Snedeker said. “I just made a mess of it.”...............

[TwillDog]

Saw the low-lights of that 4 jack - brutal. Par putt was a bit aggressive, then the comebacker for bogey was really aggressive. It's only shot was going straight in - it didn't. At this point, I'm sure he knew the writing was on the wall and left the club face way open on that swipe.

Here is the money breakdown - had he made the par putt he would have tied for 5th, and would have pocketed $285,000 along with Zach Johnson. The bogey would have tied him for 6th with Sergio and Paddy, the three of them taking $251,250. The double bogey would have been a 3 way tie also, each getting $217,500. His 5-way T-10 got him $172,500. The missed par putt cost him $112,500 and the missed bogey not only cost him the top 30 and a shot at the $10 million and Cup, but also $78,750. That par putt cost more than all but about 15% of all Americans make in a year... Nice work, if you can get it (or should I say get good enough to get it...).

[Bulls9999]

I thought only the top 5 had a chance at the $10 mill?

Perhaps the worst part of it, givin that he wouldn't have a chance at the $10 mill, but a good sum nonetheless for what filters down, but most importantely, the top 30 players are an automatic into all the majors and arealso guaranteed entry into next years FedEx tournament.

Originally Posted by TwillDog

Saw the low-lights of that 4 jack - brutal. Par putt was a bit aggressive, then the comebacker for bogey was really aggressive. It's only shot was going straight in - it didn't. At this point, I'm sure he knew the writing was on the wall and left the club face way open on that swipe.

Here is the money breakdown - had he made the par putt he would have tied for 5th, and would have pocketed $285,000 along with Zach Johnson. The bogey would have tied him for 6th with Sergio and Paddy, the three of them taking $251,250. The double bogey would have been a 3 way tie also, each getting $217,500. His 5-way T-10 got him $172,500. The missed par putt cost him $112,500 and the missed bogey not only cost him the top 30 and a shot at the $10 million and Cup, but also $78,750. That par putt cost more than all but about 15% of all Americans make in a year... Nice work, if you can get it (or should I say get good enough to get it...).

[JimSomebody]

For anyone who missed it, Snedeker's putting adventure starts at 0:46.



Listen to the crowd go Oh! ... twice.

[DonnaKay]

Originally Posted by Bulls9999

I thought only the top 5 had a chance at the $10 mill?

Actually, if one of the top 5 wins the next event, they automatically win the Fed Ex cup. However, if another player outside the top 5 wins, then the Fed Ex cup winner will depend on how those in the top 5 finish. It mathematically possible that #30 could win the cup but highly unlikely that everyone in contention would finish so poorly as to give him a chance.

It's a bit complicated but better than last year, when it was decided as soon as Vijay teed it up.

I do think the commercials saying whoever wins the cup is the best player of the year is stupid! Obviously, a Jim Furyk winning the Fed Ex with no other wins in 2 years might be the playoff winner but not the best of the year, for heaven's sake!

[Bulls9999]

Well, I like the way you put it better, it makes it more exciting to think that more than just 5 people can win it.

Originally Posted by DonnaKay

Actually, if one of the top 5 wins the next event, they automatically win the Fed Ex cup. However, if another player outside the top 5 wins, then the Fed Ex cup winner will depend on how those in the top 5 finish. It mathematically possible that #30 could win the cup but highly unlikely that everyone in contention would finish so poorly as to give him a chance.

It's a bit complicated but better than last year, when it was decided as soon as Vijay teed it up.

I do think the commercials saying whoever wins the cup is the best player of the year is stupid! Obviously, a Jim Furyk winning the Fed Ex with no other wins in 2 years might be the playoff winner but not the best of the year, for heaven's sake!

[Ty_Webb]

Originally Posted by DonnaKay

Actually, if one of the top 5 wins the next event, they automatically win the Fed Ex cup. However, if another player outside the top 5 wins, then the Fed Ex cup winner will depend on how those in the top 5 finish. It mathematically possible that #30 could win the cup but highly unlikely that everyone in contention would finish so poorly as to give him a chance.

It's a bit complicated but better than last year, when it was decided as soon as Vijay teed it up.

I do think the commercials saying whoever wins the cup is the best player of the year is stupid! Obviously, a Jim Furyk winning the Fed Ex with no other wins in 2 years might be the playoff winner but not the best of the year, for heaven's sake!

I beg to differ. It's not better than last year. It's stupid for the very reason that you put in the last paragraph. Someone could win every tournament all year apart from the Tour Championship where they come second, while someone else has Furyk's year and wins the Tour Championship. Who should win the FedEx Cup in that situation? They can't decide whether it should be a season long thing (IMO it should) or based around a single tournament at the end. If it's decided before the Tour Championship, then so be it. I'd rather that were the case than that the whole season long thing get devalued like it is this year.

[drstroud]

Such is golf. Can't say the crowd has ever responded to me like they did to Snedeker. Of course, I don't play in front of crowds.

[DonnaKay]

Ty, I'll agree that the concept itself is stupid. However, the reason I think this year is "better" than last is that at least more than one person has a chance to win the dumb playoffs. The way they did the points last year, all Vijay had to do was hit his first tee shot and he was assured the cup, regardless of how he played in that tournament.

On the positive side, while I think the very idea of a playoff-type system for golf is unnecessary, the Fed Ex cup system has given us some very good golf with excellent fields at a time when most of the top players would not be out there!

[Ty_Webb]

Originally Posted by DonnaKay

Ty, I'll agree that the concept itself is stupid. However, the reason I think this year is "better" than last is that at least more than one person has a chance to win the dumb playoffs. The way they did the points last year, all Vijay had to do was hit his first tee shot and he was assured the cup, regardless of how he played in that tournament.

On the positive side, while I think the very idea of a playoff-type system for golf is unnecessary, the Fed Ex cup system has given us some very good golf with excellent fields at a time when most of the top players would not be out there!

I agree about the idea being a positive one. The issue is that if someone has done enough to win before the Tour Championship then they should win the FedEx Cup. Everyone is still playing for the Tour Championship. It's just that the FedEx Cup was already wrapped up. It happens. Changing it to make it like it is is unfair IMO. That you can be in fifth place and guarantee winning the FedEx cup with a victory in the tour championship makes a mockery of the whole "season long" thing. Heath Slocum has a pretty good chance of demonstrating that the season itself is largely irrelevant. If they're going to do it this way, then the rest of the season doesn't matter and they should admit as much.

[Bulls9999]

Do you mean something like the Schwab (sp?) Cup for the Senior Tour?... where they accumulate points all year long depending on their finish and the highest point totals 'wins the cup'.

Originally Posted by Ty_Webb

I agree about the idea being a positive one. The issue is that if someone has done enough to win before the Tour Championship then they should win the FedEx Cup. Everyone is still playing for the Tour Championship. It's just that the FedEx Cup was already wrapped up. It happens. Changing it to make it like it is is unfair IMO. That you can be in fifth place and guarantee winning the FedEx cup with a victory in the tour championship makes a mockery of the whole "season long" thing. Heath Slocum has a pretty good chance of demonstrating that the season itself is largely irrelevant. If they're going to do it this way, then the rest of the season doesn't matter and they should admit as much.

[Leaguegolf]

Originally Posted by Ty_Webb

That you can be in fifth place and guarantee winning the FedEx cup with a victory in the tour championship makes a mockery of the whole "season long" thing.

What's the difference between a 5th place player having a chance at winning the FedEx Cup by winning the last event and a "Wild Card" team winning the Super Bowl or World Series? A player's year long FedEx Cup point total is like a team's regular season record in other sports. In any playoff scenario only the top teams/players get in and once they're in anyone can win. I don't think the FedEx Cup is supposed to determine the "Player of the Year." It's to determine the best player in the playoffs.

[Ty_Webb]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

What's the difference between a 5th place player having a chance at winning the FedEx Cup by winning the last event and a "Wild Card" team winning the Super Bowl or World Series? A player's year long FedEx Cup point total is like a team's regular season record in other sports. In any playoff scenario only the top teams/players get in and once they're in anyone can win. I don't think the FedEx Cup is supposed to determine the "Player of the Year." It's to determine the best player in the playoffs.

There isn't any, but they are very different beasts. The superbowl is football and football is a game where the best team normally wins. Doesn't always happen granted, but for the most part it's like that. Golf is a game where the best player wins once in three times (ish - before Tiger came along, that was more like once in ten times).

As far as baseball is concerned I would agree with you if the world series was a one game series. It's not. It's a 7 game series and if you win the first four, then it's over. If they made the world series a 7 game series, but said if you win the 7th game by four runs, then it doesn't matter what happened in games 1 through 6, then that's what I think the FedEx Cup is like at the moment.

EDIT: I don't mind that anyone can win the FedEx Cup once they get into the playoffs, but I do think that someone from the bottom end should have to have a stellar playoffs to do so. I think there's a flaw in allowing quite so many people into it. 125 is too many.

[live-4-golf]

Food for thought:How about the last week of the championship be played in the match play format.Start with the top thirty or so and whittle them down to Sunday ending with the consulation and champion matches being played.May the best player that day win!!Something like whats been done before in other tournaments.TV would be thrilled to have their Sunday broadcast end an hour early,NOT!!

L-4-G

[Blue_Arc]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

“I can’t believe I did this,” Snedeker said. “I just made a mess of it.”...............

Yup...

[Leaguegolf]

Originally Posted by live-4-golf

Food for thought:How about the last week of the championship be played in the match play format.Start with the top thirty or so and whittle them down to Sunday ending with the consulation and champion matches being played.May the best player that day win!!Something like whats been done before in other tournaments.TV would be thrilled to have their Sunday broadcast end an hour early,NOT!!

The PGA Tour isn't going to force feed us the FedEx Cup all year just to have a match play final of Jason Dufman(10) vs Marc Leishman (16). Don't laugh, it could happen with a match play format and that would kill the FedEx Cup.

[live-4-golf]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

The PGA Tour isn't going to force feed us the FedEx Cup all year just to have a match play final of Jason Dufman(10) vs Marc Leishman (16). Don't laugh, it could happen with a match play format and that would kill the FedEx Cup.

Big lose??

L-4-G

[mr3856a]

Originally Posted by Ty_Webb

I agree about the idea being a positive one. The issue is that if someone has done enough to win before the Tour Championship then they should win the FedEx Cup. Everyone is still playing for the Tour Championship. It's just that the FedEx Cup was already wrapped up. It happens. Changing it to make it like it is is unfair IMO. That you can be in fifth place and guarantee winning the FedEx cup with a victory in the tour championship makes a mockery of the whole "season long" thing. Heath Slocum has a pretty good chance of demonstrating that the season itself is largely irrelevant. If they're going to do it this way, then the rest of the season doesn't matter and they should admit as much.

Well if you think about it, the playoffs in any other sport work the same way. I mean the Cards barely scratched their way into the MLB playoffs in '06 and won it all; there have been plenty of teams with the best regular season record that bowed out in the playoffs.

To me the system seems to... I can't think of the right word. Not contorted. It just seems to arbitrary, too made up. To... stinkin' hard to understand. [Edit: "contrived" is the word I was thinking of]. I think what would make the most sense is at the Barclay's, all bets are off. The top 120 go to the Deutsche Bank. The top 70 guys from the Deutsche Bank get into the BMW. The top 30 guys from there get into the Tour Championship, and he who wins takes home a huge pile of cash. That is a true playoff system: you get in, you have just as good a shot to win it as anyone else.

Of course the Tour would never allow that; you cold wind up with Phil or Tiger or any number of the big names missing the cut and you could have Jason Dufner, Marc Leishman, Steve Marino, John Senden, Matt Kuchar and Bill Haas battling it out for $10 million in cash on Sunday of the Tour Championship. Which of course would come in right behind the Home Shopping Network in ratings. That and a marathon of "Golden Girls" re-runs.

[Ty_Webb]

Originally Posted by mr3856a

Well if you think about it, the playoffs in any other sport work the same way. I mean the Cards barely scratched their way into the MLB playoffs in '06 and won it all; there have been plenty of teams with the best regular season record that bowed out in the playoffs.

To me the system seems to... I can't think of the right word. Not contorted. It just seems to arbitrary, too made up. To... stinkin' hard to understand. [Edit: "contrived" is the word I was thinking of]. I think what would make the most sense is at the Barclay's, all bets are off. The top 120 go to the Deutsche Bank. The top 70 guys from the Deutsche Bank get into the BMW. The top 30 guys from there get into the Tour Championship, and he who wins takes home a huge pile of cash. That is a true playoff system: you get in, you have just as good a shot to win it as anyone else.

Of course the Tour would never allow that; you cold wind up with Phil or Tiger or any number of the big names missing the cut and you could have Jason Dufner, Marc Leishman, Steve Marino, John Senden, Matt Kuchar and Bill Haas battling it out for $10 million in cash on Sunday of the Tour Championship. Which of course would come in right behind the Home Shopping Network in ratings. That and a marathon of "Golden Girls" re-runs.

This would be true if the mlb playoffs were played over 1 game each round, but they're not. They play 7 games because baseball is a game where the best player doesn't win very often. I view the playoffs as being like the world series. Four events instead of seven, but it should be that the best player through the playoffs wins (ie the best team through the world series), with some initial loading of points to reflect the equivalence of getting an easier draw if you have a better regular season record.

The Tour Championship not affecting the result is the same as not playing game 7 (or games 5 or 6 for that matter).

[Bigvivec]

Originally Posted by Ty_Webb

I agree about the idea being a positive one. The issue is that if someone has done enough to win before the Tour Championship then they should win the FedEx Cup. Everyone is still playing for the Tour Championship. It's just that the FedEx Cup was already wrapped up. It happens. Changing it to make it like it is is unfair IMO. That you can be in fifth place and guarantee winning the FedEx cup with a victory in the tour championship makes a mockery of the whole "season long" thing. Heath Slocum has a pretty good chance of demonstrating that the season itself is largely irrelevant. If they're going to do it this way, then the rest of the season doesn't matter and they should admit as much.

Now if you think of it in terms like the Premiership and the FA Cup it would make more sense...My suggestion to whoever is in charge of these things is to make them completely separate competitions with the playoff having everyone starting from scratch with the only nod to the season being the field qualification...

[TwillDog]

Originally Posted by Ty_Webb

This would be true if the mlb playoffs were played over 1 game each round, but they're not. They play 7 games because baseball is a game where the best player doesn't win very often. I view the playoffs as being like the world series. Four events instead of seven, but it should be that the best player through the playoffs wins (ie the best team through the world series), with some initial loading of points to reflect the equivalence of getting an easier draw if you have a better regular season record.

The Tour Championship not affecting the result is the same as not playing game 7 (or games 5 or 6 for that matter).

This is the point exactly, IMO. The fact that the person who wins the Tour Championship and the person who wins the Fed Ex Cup are most likley (over the course of time under the current system) NOT going to be the same person. I'm not a NASCAR afficionado, but I suppose it's the same way there. The Tour has to decide what it wants - either the winner of the Tour Championship is the Tour champion, or the winner of the playoff is the champion. Just as in the other major sports, the champion isn't always the best team. The Yankees have the best record in baseball this season but there is only a one in 8 chance that they will be the World Series champions.
I just don't know that there is any logical way to make the golf playoffs work in this way. We have become accustomed in baseball to seeing things like the Cardinals '06 win, or last years run by the Arizona Cardinals, when the "best" team doesn't end up in the big game. But in golf there is no "big game" except the Tour Championship. The only thing I could think of is take the regular season rankings, be it Fed Ex Cup or money list and take the top x number of players and have them play all 3 events leading up to the Tour Championship, then as usual the top 30 play for the Tour Championship, winner takes the season. In 3 tournaments leading up to the final, everyone plays, make the cut a 54 hole cut in all 3 events so everyone has a great opportunity to get everything out of their game. The best players should be identified, or at least the hottest players if there are any. Then for the Tour Championship, everything resets and the winner is the winner. Period.

[Ty_Webb]

Originally Posted by TwillDog

This is the point exactly, IMO. The fact that the person who wins the Tour Championship and the person who wins the Fed Ex Cup are most likley (over the course of time under the current system) NOT going to be the same person. I'm not a NASCAR afficionado, but I suppose it's the same way there. The Tour has to decide what it wants - either the winner of the Tour Championship is the Tour champion, or the winner of the playoff is the champion. Just as in the other major sports, the champion isn't always the best team. The Yankees have the best record in baseball this season but there is only a one in 8 chance that they will be the World Series champions.
I just don't know that there is any logical way to make the golf playoffs work in this way. We have become accustomed in baseball to seeing things like the Cardinals '06 win, or last years run by the Arizona Cardinals, when the "best" team doesn't end up in the big game. But in golf there is no "big game" except the Tour Championship. The only thing I could think of is take the regular season rankings, be it Fed Ex Cup or money list and take the top x number of players and have them play all 3 events leading up to the Tour Championship, then as usual the top 30 play for the Tour Championship, winner takes the season. In 3 tournaments leading up to the final, everyone plays, make the cut a 54 hole cut in all 3 events so everyone has a great opportunity to get everything out of their game. The best players should be identified, or at least the hottest players if there are any. Then for the Tour Championship, everything resets and the winner is the winner. Period.

In baseball when you get to the world series, there are two teams that can win. The better team might be 65% favourites to win over 7 games, so it's a reasonable way to do it. In golf, if you have a 30 man tournament, then there are 30 people who can still win. This is about the same as the baseball season starts out with. If there's no one like Tiger around, then the chances of each person out of that top 30 winning is roughly speaking 1 in 30. These odds are too long for trying to determine the "premier" player of the year, which is after all the point of the event. They don't want to do it like that because the prize fund (something like $35 million I think it is) is way too big to share out for one tournament. I agree with them on this.

The problem they have is they want the "season long points champion" to mean something, and have it guaranteed to be interesting at the end. I don't think they can have both.

[Leaguegolf]

I know it's a work in progress but I think it's safe to say that the FedEx Cup playoff system still hasn't gotten it right yet. I'm not sure that a season long point chase followed by a "playoff" works for golf. It has succeeded in bringing the top players to play more late season events, and that's a good thing, but the way I see it it's never going to really bring playoff golf into the spotlight.

Playoff golf for me takes place 4 times a year. Qualify for a major and bring your A-Game. There's your playoff challege. There are a handful of other great tournaments that I enjoy watching but the FedEx Cup events are pretty far down that list. I'd like to blame the FedEx Cup for ruining the season ending Tour Championship but the top players did that starting several years ago by just not showing up.

There's no pressure to win the FedEx Cup, or at least not even close to the pressure it takes to win a major championship. I'm bored just watching players play for a boatload of money. The dollar amounts are so out of my realm of reality that it no longer means anything to me. $1.5+ million to a tournament winner, $10 million for the FedEx Cup......it's all the same to me.

I guess I'm just a major championship golf snob now because those 4 events are the only ones that get my full attention anymore and if the PGA Championship keeps going to the Y.E. Yangs of the world it may lose me too. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't care who wins the contrived FedEx Cup that's been shoved down my throat all year but I'd like to return the favor to whoever thought up this crapshoot....literally.

[Bolt Fore]

How about the top thirty play for the top 5, then the top 5 play for the Cup.

[Leaguegolf]

A fivesome for $10 million might be fun to watch.

[JimSomebody]

Getting back to Snedeker, I came across this in the 9-21-09 issue of GolfWorld:

All he required for playoff advancement was a bogey putt from three feet on the par-4 No. 18, but he yipped it. "I asked Roger Maltbie what I needed on the fairway," Snedeker said. "I'm sure Dr. Bob Rotella and I will have a nice long talk tonight. He always tells us to just think about the next shot, not to get ahead of ourselves. I did everything wrong. Shows you how weak mentally I am.

Golf: Weekend Warrior: Golf Digest Magazine

That last part is what struck me. To get to PGA Tour level of play, I think you have to be pretty mentally strong. Not Tiger-strong, necessarily, but pretty darn strong at that part of the game, too. Hate to see him think that about himself.

[Leaguegolf]

Originally Posted by JimSomebody

Getting back to Snedeker, I came across this in the 9-21-09 issue of GolfWorld:



Golf: Weekend Warrior: Golf Digest Magazine

That last part is what struck me. To get to PGA Tour level of play, I think you have to be pretty mentally strong. Not Tiger-strong, necessarily, but pretty darn strong at that part of the game, too. Hate to see him think that about himself.

A 4-jack tends to do that to one's self-esteem. Especially when it cost Snedeker what it did. He'll shake it off.

[Blue_Arc]

He's a class act. He took it on the chin. Went about signing autographs like nothing happened. Man I would have cried like a little girl. He lost a bundle of money there.

[mr3856a]

Originally Posted by Ty_Webb

This would be true if the mlb playoffs were played over 1 game each round, but they're not. They play 7 games because baseball is a game where the best player doesn't win very often. I view the playoffs as being like the world series. Four events instead of seven, but it should be that the best player through the playoffs wins (ie the best team through the world series), with some initial loading of points to reflect the equivalence of getting an easier draw if you have a better regular season record.

The Tour Championship not affecting the result is the same as not playing game 7 (or games 5 or 6 for that matter).

Ok, take football, then (American football, that is). Ask the Patriots how much the regular season means in the post-season.

[mr3856a]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

A fivesome for $10 million might be fun to watch.

A lot more fun to watch than watching the tourney this Sunday and listening to the guys explain who wins what if player X wins the tournament, player Y comes in 3rd or worst (but in a tie with player Q), player Z comes in solo 2nd, etc. This is one way in which the girls have it right - their big-money event (the ADT?) where they play off everybody on Sunday, whoever wins gets the big pile of cash.

[Leaguegolf]

I didn't get to watch any of Sunday's play and I was very surprised to see that Phil seemed to come from nowhere to win. Does Phil know this is September?

I know the PGA Tour wants some kind of playoff and that's what they have...Some kind of playoff. Exactly what kind of playoff this was has a lot of people puzzled but hey, it's a playoff.

The four season ending tournaments have drawn the best players so that's not a bad thing but the playoff format just doesn't get it for me. I wonder how long FedEx will continue to think they're getting their money's worth?

[Wazmankg]

Originally Posted by Leaguegolf

I didn't get to watch any of Sunday's play and I was very surprised to see that Phil seemed to come from nowhere to win. Does Phil know this is September?

I know the PGA Tour wants some kind of playoff and that's what they have...Some kind of playoff. Exactly what kind of playoff this was has a lot of people puzzled but hey, it's a playoff.

The four season ending tournaments have drawn the best players so that's not a bad thing but the playoff format just doesn't get it for me. I wonder how long FedEx will continue to think they're getting their money's worth?

I don't know but I think combining the 2 (Tour Chamionship & Fed Ex Champ) detracted from both accomplishments. It just seemed awkward. After the tournament, which Phil won by coming from behind the last 3 days in rather spectacular fashion, first we got a couple minutes retrospective of Tiger's year. Then we got an interview with Phil, who joked about Tiger getting the $10m even though he won the tournament , then they interviewed Tiger about his Fed Ex win, after he'd finished 2nd in the tournament.. and we all know how excited he is when he finishes 2nd. What should have been crowning achievements by the 2 most popular guys in the game in its supposely penultimate event was just ..well awkward.

[mr3856a]

Originally Posted by Wazmankg

I don't know but I think combining the 2 (Tour Chamionship & Fed Ex Champ) detracted from both accomplishments. It just seemed awkward. After the tournament, which Phil won by coming from behind the last 3 days in rather spectacular fashion, first we got a couple minutes retrospective of Tiger's year. Then we got an interview with Phil, who joked about Tiger getting the $10m even though he won the tournament , then they interviewed Tiger about his Fed Ex win, after he'd finished 2nd in the tournament.. and we all know how excited he is when he finishes 2nd. What should have been crowning achievements by the 2 most popular guys in the game in its supposely penultimate event was just ..well awkward.

That's why I'm sayin' what they need to do is make it so that he who wins the Tour Championship is the FedEx Cup champ. What would really be cool is a day-by-day elimination, like 32 play Thursday, the top 16 go to Friday, top 8 go to Saturday, and on Sunday, play a 4-some for the whole shebang. Could you imagine watching a guy facing a squirly 6-footer to get into a playoff for $10,000,000? Now that would be fun to watch.

It'd be just like in any other sport - you just never know who's going to win that deciding game.

[Ty_Webb]

Originally Posted by mr3856a

That's why I'm sayin' what they need to do is make it so that he who wins the Tour Championship is the FedEx Cup champ. What would really be cool is a day-by-day elimination, like 32 play Thursday, the top 16 go to Friday, top 8 go to Saturday, and on Sunday, play a 4-some for the whole shebang. Could you imagine watching a guy facing a squirly 6-footer to get into a playoff for $10,000,000? Now that would be fun to watch.

It'd be just like in any other sport - you just never know who's going to win that deciding game.

If they wanted to make it like other sports, they should have the top 16 going into four matchplay events. Each matchplay event is a best of five matches starting Thursday with two on Sunday if needed. 1 plays 16 etc.

[Bolt Fore]

Poor Brant, could have gotten a nice Lexus hybrid with what he lost!